. >> gandhi is in hell and he is? and someone knows this for sure? will only a few select people make it to heaven, and will billions and billions of people burn forever in hell? >> bell offers a more expansive view. he's pastor of the nondenominational mars hill bible church just outside grand rapids, which has some 10,000 weekly attenders. he's also a popular speaker, whose videos have a huge international following among younger evangelicals. >> for me, interacting with countless people over the years who literally are carrying around an ime, god is not good and god is not good because my grandmother died and at the funeral the pastor wanted us all to know for sure that my grandma was burning in torment forever. >> bell points to scriptures where jesus says he is restoring all things and drawing all people to himself. >> and jesus tells stories in which the key character doesn't give up on whatever is lost, and i think we should take that seriously. i don't know what god has in ind, but i dknow that thi story that jesus tells causes us to pause be